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With the Stream —Bhikkhu Sujato

Numbered Discourses 4

1. At Bhaṇḍa Village

5. With the Stream

1.1“These four people are found in the world. 1.2What four? 1.3A person who goes with the stream; a person who goes against the stream; a steadfast person; and a brahmin who has crossed over and stands on the far shore.

1.4And who is the person who goes with the stream? 1.5It’s a person who takes part in sensual pleasures and does bad deeds. 1.6This is called a person who goes with the stream.

2.1And who is the person who goes against the stream? 2.2It’s a person who doesn’t take part in sensual pleasures or do bad deeds. They live the full and pure spiritual life in pain and sadness, weeping, with tearful faces. 2.3This is called a person who goes against the stream.

3.1And who is the steadfast person? 3.2It’s a person who, with the ending of the five lower fetters, is reborn spontaneously. They’re extinguished there, and are not liable to return from that world. 3.3This is called a steadfast person.

4.1And who is a brahmin who has crossed over and stands on the far shore? 4.2It’s a person who realizes the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom in this very life. And they live having realized it with their own insight due to the ending of defilements. 4.3This is called a brahmin who has crossed over and stands on the far shore.

4.4These are the four people found in the world.

5.1All those people with uncontrolled sensuality,
5.2not free of lust, enjoying sensual pleasures in this life:
5.3again and again, they return to birth and old age;
5.4those who go with the stream are sunk in craving.

6.1So a wise one in this life, with mindfulness established,
6.2doesn’t take part in sensual pleasures and bad deeds.
6.3In pain they’d give up sensual pleasures:
6.4they call that person ‘one who goes against the stream’.

7.1Someone who’s given up five corruptions,
7.2a perfect trainee, not liable to decline,
7.3who’s mastered their mind, with faculties immersed in samādhi,
7.4that’s called ‘a steadfast person’.

8.1The sage who has comprehended all things, high and low,
8.2cleared them and ended them, so they are no more;
8.3they’ve completed the spiritual journey, and gone to the end of the world,
8.4they’re called ‘one who has gone beyond’.”